Podcast and Chill with MacG

00:00 Welcome to Podcasts. 00:33 have you ever had like a second phone during a relationship no that the spare wheel phone yeah never yeah never i had one once because this girl i was dating at the time she kept going through my phone and then i got another phone and then i lost it till this day i haven't found it bro i forgot where i put it bro 00:51 So you hit it and you forgot where you hit it. You hit it from yourself. 00:56 What if she found it? 00:57 Nah, I doubt it, dog. 00:59 Dude, why don't you just lock your phone? Why would you get another phone? Like, why would you go through the trouble? No, because the girl I was dating at the time, she didn't have a phone, so we're using the same phone. No, no, no, she didn't want to have a phone. 01:09 Why didn't you buy her a phone? 01:10 Yeah, she didn't want to have a phone. But I was broke at the time, bro. I couldn't afford one. 01:15 Ah, come on, man. Come on, man. You've never had another phone, bro? Never. To avoid a relation, my woman go over my phone. Never. 01:24 So where did you keep it? 01:25 I think, I can't remember. I think I put it in the garage or something, bro. 01:29 I know most guys keep it in the spare wheel, apparently. Yeah. 01:32 Oh, thank you, Saul. Ladies, we know where to check. 01:35 Well, they're going to change now. What do you mean the spare wheel? Like in the car? Yeah, well, the spare wheel stays. So, it's got a floor that you can remove in order to access the spare wheel. So, there by the spare wheel, you just place it there. 01:50 And then when you do your shenanigans, so you use the same phone? 01:54 What do you mean? Like when you're cheating and stuff. 01:57 That's the purpose of the phone. No, but you've never had one. I'm asking you. You've never had one. 02:01 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. When I used to do shenanigans, yeah, I used the same phone. Oh, come on, guys. 02:07 What's funny? We've all pinned it. We've all pinned it. 02:10 No pin code, nothing. 02:13 My phone. My phone has a PIN code. We'll always have a PIN code in case I lose my phone. Someone picks it up. There's sensitive information there. And that's my phone. It's like partly my diary. The black screen thing where they can't see. You know that black screen cover? Discreet screen. 02:28 Yeah. So you got that as well? 02:29 Yeah, yeah. Discreet screen. Then I do like when you're in a flight and you got a nosy, you know, neighbor. So you got a discreet screen just for the flight? Yeah. No, no, no. 02:39 Do you fly? Are you flying 24-7? 02:41 I currently have a discreet screen. Yeah. But it's only for the purposes of when I'm traveling in public or when I'm in public. 02:49 So that those people... Oh. You know when someone records what you are reading or watching and then they zoom in. Got nothing to do with your partner. Oh. 03:00 You got nothing to do with your partner. Like you don't want her to see what you're doing. 03:02 Oh, no, no, no, no. When you're there chilling like in bed together. 03:05 Bro, can she go on your phone, bro? Funnily enough, I don't use my phone in bed. 03:10 Oh, wow. 03:10 Like, I don't phone. Bed phone, I don't do that. Can she go on your phone, bro? 03:14 Like, let's say now she wants to order Uber Eats. Yes. You give it to her. Yes. 03:18 Oh, wow. And you? No, no, same. Yeah, same, same, same. Are you sure? Yeah, yeah. That phone is like the family phone, bro. My kids use it. My wife uses it. There's another one. 03:29 Wait. Wait. 03:32 Now it makes sense. I'm all... My wife is too much of a CIA. She doesn't even need to go through my phone. She can just feel. She knows that. 03:53 But when you've been with someone for so long, I can't believe it. 03:59 You can tell that something is up. How would you feel, Ghost Lady, if you found out Naga has another phone? 04:06 Nobody does. But I know it. 04:10 Yeah, but we're talking about one that you don't know. Yeah, like a phone, an unknown phone. Yeah. 04:14 I'd be shocked. I'd be shocked. Then I'll check. I want to go through it and see what's up. What is he doing there? Definitely. 04:21 You are one of those. Yes. I want to find out. You will. You will find it. What you looking for? 04:28 His phone is dangerous, bro. Don't go through your man's phone. Don't go on the phone, bro. You will find what you're looking for. There's a song with Kaboomu and Maisa. 04:38 Obviously, when you are looking, you are looking for something. 04:42 And you will find it, bro. Exactly. You'll find it. You'll find a chat. Like, let's say, for example, I'm just talking to a ghost lady. I'm like, yo, Standa Sam. Already, that's an argument. Why am I calling ghost ladies, Standa Sam? Yo, yo, yo, yo. You understand what I'm saying? Nah, phones are dangerous, bro. Like, whenever I get into a relationship, I always tell my partner, don't go through my phone if you want peace. 04:59 So, what do you search? Let's say now you found this phone, right? Off of Naga's. And you open the WhatsApp. Obviously, you can't scroll every chat. Of course. But there's words you can search that will take you to the juice. It's baby. 05:11 Baby. 05:11 Heart. 05:12 Yeah, emojis. Yes. Can you search emojis? 05:16 Oh good. You can, you can. Like hot emoji, a first one. 05:19 You can search a hot emoji. Then you'll see. Last night... Peach. Search the peach. Okay. Yeah. Which is bum. And the eggplant, which is cock. 05:26 And the eggplant, yeah. 05:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just got home. Just got home. 05:32 I'm outside. I'm outside. 05:34 Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. For sex. 05:37 Why is everyone avoiding sex? Send sex. Because some people, sex is sex. And they call it sex. 05:43 I'm also checking e-wallet, you know, because normally these things go hand in hand. E-wallet? That's a weird one. 05:49 Yeah, that's a weird one. Why e-wallet? 05:52 No, because... Could be an Uber driver or like a Gardner or someone. Yeah, yeah, you could be paying the Gardner. 05:57 But then that you'll do on your normal phone. But if it's the other phone, then you are paying someone for, you know, secretive stuff. 06:04 Mm. Nah. Nah. 06:08 Let's be honest. Let's be honest. 06:10 Nah, relationship don't work like that. 06:13 Have you ever gone through your partner's phone though? 06:16 Not the current one in all your dating life. I haven't. At all? 06:22 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 06:25 An ex of mine... 06:28 She did give me the phone, but that was when I called her for cheating. Okay. You see. And now I know. And then I'm like, there must be many more others we're cheating with. 06:39 And for the first time, she gave me her phone to check. 06:43 Then I quickly went to the bedroom locked. They had all the sweet time. You even locked one day. They had all the sweet time. But the relationship was over. It was done. 06:52 So if it's over, what are you looking for? Oh, confirm. 06:55 Yeah, then I saw other stuff as well. 06:58 Not a lot. But I saw one or two, you know, dudes. Just her entertaining dudes. 07:06 My phone has been gone through though. 07:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah, damn. Did it end good, bad? 07:13 Did it end well or? Didn't end well. 07:16 Didn't end well. It was a few years ago. You know, on the podcast, because we do stories. Yeah. And sometimes I jot down things I want to talk about. Of course, of course. So I unlock my phone. Because normally my phone locks in 30 seconds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that never locks when I'm on the podcast to do the unlock thing. 07:34 Yeah. 07:35 But I always forget to send it back to lock in 30 seconds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. And I think I was charging my phone or something. You know, I used to live next to the mall, right, in Rosebank. Then I left, walked. There me, going to check us. I don't know, I caught back, things were normal. 07:54 Because I can't even remember me getting back, right? It was... 08:08 When I think we were drunk or something happened, we were pissed. After the day. When? Long after the day. That's the word. Long after the day. Long after the day. And then she mentioned the video and the details. I was like... 08:28 My body went cold, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I denied it. Obviously, like a guy would, I denied it. But the details, I was like, yeah. Then she mentioned that day, what happened that day. You know, because I'd left her home. Oh, and she was sick. Mind you. 08:48 Damn, bro. 08:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was young, man. 08:51 Ah, two years ago. 08:52 No, three years ago. Come on. 08:56 Three years ago. Three years ago. Yeah, yeah, I was young. What do you mean? 09:04 I was young. Come on. 09:06 I was young. 09:09 I was young. I was young. I was young. I was young. Yeah, bro. And I was like, yo. And I'm like, yo. And I'm like, how did you get through my phone? She was like, nah, it wasn't locked. She knows my phone would be black, the screen, because it's locked. But when it's opened, it's like this. It's opened. You know? And I think to her, she discovered gold. Like, yo. Have you ever gone through a guy's phone? 09:35 I've gone through a guy's phone. I've gone through my husband's phone. I just didn't find anything. 09:40 Whoa. 09:41 Yeah. But that was like three years ago. I need to maybe check. Hey. 09:45 Does he go through your phone? 09:46 No, he doesn't. 09:47 Bring your phone. Let's go through it for him. 09:50 If there's anything. Bring your phone. No, you can't. Yeah, yeah. Please take it, Yondel. 09:54 Yeah. 09:55 Let me open it for you. Yes, please open it. Yes. 09:58 Another story, I think I've told this. 10:01 Oh, you'll find nothing, eh? You'll find nothing. 10:05 Give me the phone, there must be something. Just make sure it doesn't lock. You know housewives are lonely. 10:13 No, not this one. 10:15 Hey, housewives. 10:16 They get long legs. I got a long leg. That's my WhatsApp. I'm sure. I'm really sure. Check. That's eggplant. 10:27 Eggplant. Yeah, it's that penis emoji. They call it the penis emoji. 10:30 Please don't expose my conversations with my husband. Because you'll see, it's my love. 10:36 Another one, another one. 10:39 Baby is clean. Oh, baby is clean. Eggplant is clean. Eggplant. 10:43 Yeah, that penis emoji. Eggplant. 10:47 Okay, there you go. Eggplant. Oh, it's just Saul Panduka on the podcast team. 10:52 With a lot of eggplants. 10:53 What? 10:54 What? 10:56 Why would I send eggplants? Man, let me send eggplants here. I've never sent eggplants. I've never sent eggplants. 11:03 Stop sending me eggplants. Whoa, whoa, there's one. No, Pedro, here's one, here's one. Okay. 11:08 There's a sister's group saying porn turns me on and the next thing I want is me. Which one is that right? 11:13 Which one? It's a sister's group. It's a sister's group. Why are you exposing my sisters? Ah, sisters, don't do one. It's the sisters. It's the sisters. It's the sisters group. It's the sisters. Leave your sisters. 11:25 We can say your name now because he left YFM. Yeah, we can say it in peace. 11:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah. She used to work here in the moonlight. She used to moonlight here. She used to work here and secretly... 11:53 whilst we're talking to YFAM officially, secretly working here, and we could never say I was sales lady. Yondela, finally. You are free. 12:03 You are free now. 12:04 Negotiables is here. SMP was here, man. Bro, I got to tell you something, man. So since we started the lager, we've been getting white chiles, and I kid you not, bro, this is not, we didn't even pay this guy, bro. So this guy was tasting Chile's Lager for this time ever. White guy, bro. So he's gone on a safari in the middle of nowhere. You know how white people like to do it. 12:23 Yeah, they love the Bundus. 12:25 Look at this, bro. I was like, bro, I promise you, we didn't pay this guy. This is all organic, bro. 12:29 I kid you not. It is Meat Ranger here. I am at Thorny Bush at Nkalinga Tinted Lodge. It is sensational here. Look at this beautiful place. The fire's going. It does look beautiful. Not a single in sight. The fire's going to be lit just now, but we've got a new beer on the market that we have to try it. Children's lager. Yeah, boy. In the bush. First time trying this. Let's see how it goes. 12:54 Awesome, awesome, awesome, bro. Oh, wow. Hey, bro. Hey, bro. Lacker burn. Lacker. 12:59 Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. 13:03 Guys, Twiller's Lager, Porta Pican Pie. Non-sponsored will hit you. This is going to go down a treat in the bush. 13:10 A treat in the bush. This is going to go down a treat in the bush. 13:16 Hold on, hold on, hold on. But this guy's old. He clearly doesn't know. He doesn't know. He has no idea. It's just a good beer. Okay, okay, okay, good. 13:25 You know what I mean? It's good beer. People are saying it's a good beer, especially a lot of guys who... 13:29 take themselves you know when guys think they know football or they know beer or they know their whiskeys when they think they they are like their connoisseurs yeah in something yeah a lot of beer guys love it bro so let's tell you something so we put out a press release when released when we launched the lager right and then I don't want to name the publication and the journalist but there was a journalist who sent through questions and you can tell bro she's so hurt she's like she's so mad the questions are like you can tell she wants to do a hit piece bro What are the questions? 14:01 Like, she's beating me, bro. I'll tell you the questions now, but you can tell, bro. She wants a headpiece, yeah. She just can't fathom. Are you serious? She just can't understand. And I was reading these questions, I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with this person, bro? And she's black, by the way, right? Yeah, I wouldn't name the publication. 14:16 That's where the anger and the hate comes from. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From people who look like us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mostly. Yeah. Because people don't look like us. 14:22 Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? So here's one of the questions, right? She said, every brewery in South Africa told you no. And you have blamed the beer mafia. That is a big claim. You exactly... Who exactly slammed the door on you? And did anyone actually use the words beer mafia to your face? Or is that your own pitch? How? Touch. Yeah, match straight. 14:41 Seriously? 14:42 Seriously? Here's another one. Your lagers brewed in Namibia because in your own words, nobody at home would make it. What was it about the Namibian brewery that the local ones could not offer you? 14:57 I literally said, no one here wanted to work with us. 14:59 Yeah, you didn't say I couldn't find the right team or ingredients or people here and went abroad. Yeah, yeah. And they... 15:08 And he says no one wanted to work with you. Exactly. And then they ask, what is it about the local guys that you couldn't do a beer with? 15:13 You understand? You understand? 15:15 Just ask them. 15:15 She can ask them. 15:16 That is dumb. 15:17 And then she goes, a man named Silo Mukhoto got a Chili's Lager tattoo at your launch. Fresh ink permanent commitment to a beer that had existed for roughly a day. Did you know him before? Would you get the tattoo yourself? 15:33 Yes. 15:38 Okay, that's okay. 15:40 To prove my loyalty to Chilas lag. And of course, the answer would be yes, you would, right? Of course, why not? It's your baby. 15:45 The launch had a poet performing the Izitaka Zelo of the Chilas. The Chilas have appraised poetry now. Is that something the community came up with? Or did someone in a boardroom write it? And be careful, this is a family. 15:59 I have no idea what that is. 16:00 This is all one journalist. 16:01 This is one journalist talk. 16:02 Wow. 16:03 These are the questions I was getting. And I'm like, there's no way I'm fucking answering this, bro. This is a hit piece, bro. You understand? She goes, you now sell gin, a spirit cooler, and a lager. At what point does your house become a bottle store? Is their cheapest brandy coming? Order wine. Where does it stop? Yo, yo. 16:19 It shouldn't stop. Please. Please. Please. She's whining. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. By the way, thank you for the great idea. Chilas Brandy coming your way soon. Okay. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yeah. Chilas wine. Thank you. Okay. You understand what I'm saying? 16:36 Whoa, bro. Bro, these fucking breweries, ACB, distilled, they have like a shitload of products, bro. They have ciders, wines, whatever, whatever. But God forbid a black kid just tries and dreams. No, no, no. You must only do one thing. The rest is for the other white people. We don't even live here, bro. They're not even locally owned, bro. It's all international, bro. 16:58 God forbid a young boy from Venda can dream. Have you seen what Johan Rupert's company owns? They own your tea bags. They own the soap, the detergent. In the bedroom, they own the bed. They make the fucking ceiling. They make the bricks. 17:14 Open your pantry. 17:16 It's just everything they own. No, that's literally. How dare we? How dare you? How dare you are black and you try to be an industrialist or to do more than one thing that you offer to the world? How dare you? 17:29 I hope she's proud of herself. 17:31 Bro, she needs to chill, man. I'm going to send her six-pack of chillers. No, send her chillers longer for life. 17:37 For life. Turn her ass into a bottle store. 17:43 Just in the truck, man. Here's another one. Pagama Chila, for the Chilavit. Who writes this stuff? And did it go through several meetings? Did anyone suggest something worse and get shot down? Give us one rejected tagline. 17:56 Oh, you know what this smells of? 17:57 It reminds me of that article when they said... It was The Citizen. But someone at Media24 said, when you're tired of listening to podcasts and chill, here are 10 other exciting podcasts. Remember, it reeks of that... She sent it for me to answer, my dog. 18:16 For me to answer. It reeks of that stench. Is this not the definition of black on black crime? It reeks of that stench. 18:24 What is that? 18:26 It's even insulting questions. I'm being insulted. 18:32 Bro, here's the last one. You told the room that people who said it couldn't be done are exactly why you did it. You've been told that a lot in your career, haven't you? What is it that hears a no and you take it personally? 18:47 What is it about you that hears a no and you take it personally? 18:49 Yeah, yeah. 18:51 Okay, that's a bit of okay. Because they want to know, like, what is it about you that is fueled by the negativity and rejection? But not in the context of the other questions. Yeah, I know. In light of the other questions, we know where it comes from. Yes. On its own, yeah, but in light of the other questions... 19:05 So you mean this person sat through that launch? Bro... 19:08 And watched. And that's what they want to ask me. And this is what they want to ask me. 19:12 They're very combative, those Christians. I can imagine. 19:16 They sat through that launch probably with, like, a mean face. Bro, at that time, we were just minding our own business. 19:22 For the chill of it. 19:23 You understand what I'm saying? We're not bothering anyone. We're not doing anything illegal. Ha, Muna. That's crazy, right? Hey, dog, Muna is going to kill us as black people, bro. 19:31 Muna is going to kill us, bro. As we drink, as we drink. Muna. Sure. 19:36 Sure. 19:38 Ew. 19:39 Ah, fucking hell. Did you see the Strongbow Heineken thing that's going on? And the dog. Ah, what's going on? 19:44 So essentially, so Heineken and Destel merged, right? Okay. And then the South African Competition Commission, right, put out a mandate that they have to sell Strongbow. 20:00 So that they don't have a monopoly. For competition's sake. For competition's sake. Right? So here is Heineken. Here is Distel. They merge. And under the umbrella is Strongbow. So the South African Competition Commission said you have to sell Strongbow. Okay, makes sense. So they sell it to, I think, I could be incorrect, but they sold it to Cider House Investments. One of the directors is Sabelo Sitebe Marishane. He's a black guy, but I don't know if he owns a company. I don't know if it's a black company, right? 20:31 Okay, but it's a director. 20:32 Yes, so they sold Strongbow to CIH. Okay, yes. Now, just before they sell this thing, just before the transaction is happening, then CIH claims that prior to the handover, Heineken deliberately undermined the Strongbow brand by increasing price sales. 20:55 by increasing prices rather, cutting marketing spend, limiting supply, and reducing fridge access for retailers. And then in August 2026, the Competition Commission issued Heineken a notice of apparent breach regarding these merger conditions following a year of long investigation. Heineken has publicly declined these allegations, stating they offered commercial and financial support throughout the transition. How wild is that? 21:18 That is not cool, bro. That's like someone selling you a house and then just before they do, they take a dump in the ceiling, in the attic. They take a dump in the attic and hide some dying dog somewhere. 21:35 And then... 21:36 You know, like ruin the integrity of the thing that you're selling, of the brand. That is not, that's horrible. 21:44 First comment I saw is that Mac did tell you there's a beer mafia. That's the first comment I saw. 21:47 There's a mafia everywhere, bro. Even in construction, like not like the cars who do the, not cars who do the extortion, the extorting. There's a guy, Sison Geblana. 21:59 Um... 22:00 We're talking about it now, now. You see when we're in PE, in Kabecha, where there used to be a Kofi, that Hemingsway Mall, and then there's... Kabecha, yeah, Kofi. Who's the guy who used to book us? What's his name? I forgot his name. What's his name? I forgot. 22:14 Choice. Choice. Anyway, there's a mall, Hemingsway, and then there's also... Where the Kofi is. Please check, but some in the Eastern Cape. 22:23 It might not be that centre, but there's a Hemingsway... No, no, that's not Hemingsway. That's... 22:28 Boardwalk. Yeah, that's Boardwalk. But there's also another one, Hemmings Way, which is a hotel and it's a shopping centre. Black guy built it. When he started building, no one in the country wanted to supply him with building supplies. 22:45 Literally. When he goes there, they're like, nah, no cement. They blocked him, yeah. There, nah, no break, sorry. There, nah. Then you had to import the supplies. From China. I think you probably did, because that's the only place you're going to get it cheaper for. Imagine to build a mall in a shopping center. Black guy. 23:01 He's in Gibraltar, yeah? And where is it now? Like, it's up and running? It's still there, it's still there. And he owns it. He's still around the guy, yeah, yeah. I don't know what he's going to do. He's bleaching. I don't know why, man. You know, it's so amazing. You read about this guy. 23:14 That black billionaire, then he had Rebosis. I think it was like the first black owned property company to list on the JSC. 23:22 And, you know, inspiring. And then he bleaches himself. And he was lightish already. I think you know Sisenke Blana, no? You don't know him? Oh, okay. Cool. I thought it was like an Eastern Cape superhero kind of guy. No? Yeah. So similar story with him. Maybe it's the leftover from the Briggs. 23:38 He's like, I might as well use this to bleach. 23:40 Like cement. Like cement. 23:44 Might as well. 23:45 Can't go to waste. But there's a mafia in everything. 23:57 Try getting into an industry. There's advertising. There used to be for the longest time. 24:02 The gates were kept by certain people. Advertising is even worse. Yeah, for real. 24:07 It's even worse. 24:09 So like with advertising, because the white people run everything, right? Yeah. So 10 people can pitch for not a tender, a campaign. 24:19 Yeah. 24:20 But it's already decided before. Yeah. That's just like just for formality. Formality. Procedure. They already know they're going to give it to this white guy because the white guy knows this white guy. They went to school together. Yeah. 24:31 boom, boom, boom, boom. And then you are there pouring your heart out in this presentation, but everybody knows you're not going to get it. 24:37 Yeah, that happens, bro. There's a lot of, like, corruption, that level of corruption in the private sector. Because as much as we always go, oh, yeah, tenders, the public sector, government, there's a whole lot of... Bullshit that happens in the private sector. Living with like companies, you know, with even like companies, they'll do a nice bribing exercise where they bring all the clients and then they take them away to Mauritius, you know, who are already spending money into this thing, whatever they're doing. And then they give them goodie packs, go home. 25:11 Of course, when the next opportunity comes, where are you taking the money? Yeah. So the guys will pamper you there and take you to Mauritius and to all these holidays. Imagine we're a white podcast. That's corruption, straight up. 25:24 If we're a white podcast with our numbers. We would have had Joe Rogan, all these people. 25:30 We would have had a Spotify deal maybe. We'll be making 12K an hour. 25:35 Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. 25:42 Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Yep. 25:46 And it wouldn't change. I do me. Used be you. 25:52 All the time. 25:54 I never, never, never change. I never change. Whoop. 25:59 Yeah, bro. 26:00 But yeah, bro. 26:04 Can you give Yandela the bike there? I know there's a white guy out there watching that's going to go, oh, there's the race card. You blacks, you always play the race card. Because when you highlight these... 26:13 differences, you know, it's like, oh, why are you so race sensitive? 26:19 But we have to be because we are living in a country where your race determines your fortunes half the time. Oh, yeah. 26:25 You're in corporate, bro. How bad is it? Because, like, we're just talking from what we see, man. You were in the trenches. 26:31 Oh, yeah, you were. Yeah. Especially in advertising. 26:33 Yeah. So, what I picked up working here is that brands and... Yeah, brands, the advertisers, they know that the consumers are here. Everybody watches this podcast. They know the value. 26:58 They know the value. But they don't want to pay the value. 27:06 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I deal a lot with that where they expect it to be free. Wow! Free to be free. Yeah. Why must I pay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 27:17 That is insane. 27:18 But I know where you're paying and I know how much you're paying. 27:21 Yes. And you're not going to get as much mileage there than you would here. So there's more value here. 27:28 But here it must be free. So what do you think the soul is? Even from people like me. Yeah. Our skin color, black people. Mm-hmm. 27:42 What do you think the solve is then? 27:46 The solve too? 27:47 That what you're saying? Because that's a crisis, bro. 27:51 We should be getting paid what we're worth. 27:55 Not compromising. 27:57 Not compromising. 27:58 Nah. 27:59 Yeah. Because the minute you compromise, then you struggle to get paid your value. The minute you take something that is not your value... 28:10 when you want to be paid for, you know, when you want to charge your rate card rates. 28:16 You've already been bracketed there. Yeah. Where you were low-balled or where you accepted lower value. Bro, that's why I said... And it's difficult to get out of it. 28:25 That's why I said, Pinduco, it's so important that we need to start building our own brands. That's true, bro. Yeah. we need to start building our own brands, bro. Because, like, a conversation between me and, let's say, for example, Makosa, Laduma, is easy. You know? Because he understands. He knows what we're doing. He's been in the trenches. You know what I'm saying? He knows what it feels like to build something from nothing to something. So, whenever I chat with him, It's easy. It's like, yo, poison, this is what we're doing. Are you in or out? You understand? And the more matumas, the more matrosas, the more galaxy boys, the more, you know, then it becomes easier. 28:59 More fire. Yeah, more fire. Do you get what I'm saying, though? 29:02 Yeah, yeah, 100%. 29:02 You understand what I'm saying? 29:04 100%. 29:04 Because it's crazy, dog. Like, yo, it's insane, bro. Black child, you're on your own, yeah. You really are, bro. Pretty much, yeah. What do you think, Ghost Lady, the solution is? 29:13 It is sad. I like the thing that we should never compromise. And I'd love to hear in future stories when maybe other podcasters or podcasts that come up and they're able to say, yeah, we're getting good money because... 29:28 Podcast and Chill didn't compromise. Because you can imagine, if we compromise, and then the next podcast, we'll be like, but we paid them this much. That means you guys should pay you little. So that thing is very strong about just not compromising. Because you're thinking forward as well. It's not just about us. 29:47 There's a whole chain. But we're open for business, guys. We'll take anything. 29:51 For now, we'll take anything. 29:53 LAUGHTER That's not true. That's not true. 29:58 Rondella is not happy with that. That's not true. 30:02 Speaking about sponsors, man, big shout out to Hollywood Bets. Aviatrix fans, this one's for you. Our partners at Hollywood Bets bring you the Aviatrix tournament with a share of over 280,000 rands in cash up for grabs every week until the 30th of November. Every bet enters you into the daily tournament and any reward is claimed in the game, Penduka. Wow. New customers, sign up for the Hollywood Bets account through our link in the pinned comment below. Existing customers, just log in and play. Don't forget to sign up for our Hollywood Bets account through our link in the pinned comment below to get your 25-rant sign-up bonus plus 50 free sprints for persons aged 18 and over. 30:41 T's and C's do apply. Make sure you gamble responsibly. What you got for us, Ghost Lady? 30:46 How do you guys still feel about prophecies? 30:49 You know? Prophecies! Yes. 30:51 Wait, what do you mean? Like, someone coming... From imposters! 30:54 No, not imposters. I said from pastors. Nah, most are imposters. Oh! 30:59 Oh, that's what you call them? 31:00 Wait, is this a church or like just randomly? 31:02 Yeah, just church, you know? Have you seen a prophecy lately? Have you got a prophecy randomly? 31:07 Yes. Who prophesied you randomly? We're going to get back. No, it was my woman. 31:12 Huh? Yeah, we were walking when she was still pregnant with Ziggy. 31:16 What was the prophecy? 31:18 That wasn't recent. Nah, I don't want to share that. That's too personal, man. 31:21 For real? 31:21 Did it come? Did it come to fruition? We'll see. He's still young. We'll see. He's still young? Yeah. 31:26 Oh, they prophesied about your baby? She did. 31:30 No, but the mom did. No, no, no. We were walking in Melville and this pastor came. My lady was still pregnant. And it was like, something about Ziggy, Ziggy, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. whoa for real positive yeah very positive very positive yeah i don't want to share because they prophesied on a lady you understand i see so i don't want to it's a story to tell if it was me you know i'd tell it but i don't like those people who are just random like you walk i'd understand in a certain space like okay you went to watch attend that church service or that place where they they prophesize so okay yeah there's boundaries remember that's what happened to buji and uh and then boiti 32:09 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bointy prophesied. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 32:12 Mid-groove. 32:13 Oh, damn. 32:24 We're going to have to remove that one. No, no, no. No, it's okay. It's okay. 32:32 Don't be soft. Don't be soft. 32:36 Oh, it's fine. I ain't trying to hear that shit. 32:42 I ain't trying to... What? They've never prophesized on you, my dog. 32:49 No, nothing. The weird thing. Even DMs, nothing. The closest thing. Her DM, DM, DM, DM, DM, DM. 32:56 DM, DM, DM, DM. I can't remember. Because you get a lot of DMs, my nigga. 32:59 I do, I do. And sometimes I've got time. 33:02 Not that I see her DM. Sorry, guys, I don't see her. 33:07 The closest, actually, was weird, right? Yeah. I think it was maybe, in my head, I'm assuming she was feeling something. But she didn't want to, you know, trespass. Or she didn't want to... 33:23 she wanted to keep it to herself. Because according to the first law, it's like... 33:33 It's like a smoker that picks up people. Okay. Around the hood. Yeah, around the hood. And the mama, when I'm born, I'm fucking towards the corner. Fucking towards the corner. But I'm not even born. So not until you feel something like me, but I'm full of intrusive. To say now, because I think a lot of people do see... things especially if they prophesy or money's peel but they like it must be me because it's only two of us and the driver so i'm like it must be me so i'm like all right That was... And in my... 34:23 I want to tell you. You can tell me. You know, but I'm like, ah, let me... You start the conversation. You start the conversation. No, I wanted to. I didn't tell you. 34:30 Oh, okay, okay. 34:30 So you guys are both having different conversations. In our heads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boy, God, you can see this thing... 34:41 And maybe it's scary also. So that's another thing. Maybe it's good she didn't tell me. Maybe it's very scary. But anybody else? 34:49 But don't you feel sorry for her? Because when she got in the car, she didn't know that was going to happen. Right? And then also, what I've heard is like, when you see things, right, and you don't say it in the moment you get sick, or something like that. 35:03 Oh, wow. That's a burden for people, I think. Because they see things we don't see. Yes. But Muhammad said, They will see it. You can go up behind you, like, you know. With, like, fucking 20 legs. Or a mermaid, yeah. And it's licking your face. And you're just chilling and drinking. You know, so you can imagine. 35:25 You're like, which naquita is this? Drop this. 35:37 I wouldn't wish to be in that position, man. Nah. Because you see things and you see almost like maybe people's souls, I'm assuming. 35:50 Remember when we went to Qatar? 35:53 So one of the twins, remember there were chillies who came along with us? 35:57 Oh, yeah, yeah. 35:57 And one of the twins, not the one, the twin that you say I like, the other twin, she's a Sangoma. I didn't say you like, you showed us you like. I didn't say. 36:10 We have actual footage. 36:12 No, no, I'm like, no, I did. No, no, I did, I did, Shem, I did, I did, I did. 36:16 Please bring up that footage. 36:17 No, we can't go through that again. No, I did, man, I did, I did. 36:22 I did. 36:24 I did. I did. I did. 36:25 I did. 36:26 I did. I did. Well, her sister is Sangoma. So she told us, like, literally, she'd see, like, people and their energies and, like, darkness. The darkness of people or in the room or in any space that you're in. Mm. 36:40 And, you know, but somehow, I don't know, they get accustomed to it, I think. Yeah, so it's fascinating. 36:47 Bro, I wasn't seeing anything, but I was feeling something. 36:50 Where? 36:50 And I felt disgusted, bro. Where is this now? So, the last time I was in Cape Town, we had Camps Bay, right? So, you know the restaurants, like, it's the street and then the restaurants are here. 37:00 Yes. On that long street, whatever. 37:02 Yes, yes, yes, yes. So, I'm there with my family and we chillin'. 37:07 And we ordered like food, you know. You buy the ocean, you order like, I don't know, prawns, whatever. 37:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole lot. Yeah, the whole thing. 37:15 Bro, but like, it just felt weird for me. Like, I didn't have a nice feeling, bro. I even had to turn around so I can't see this. Because like, here we are, we're eating… And there's these kids that are dancing. And you can see, like, they're fending for their lives. You can see, like, they don't know when their next meal is. 37:34 They're dancing in the restaurant? 37:35 You know those kids that dance there by Camps Bay, bro? In the streets? Yes, in the streets. 37:39 Oh, I see those. 37:40 There'll be, like, 20 kids, bro, where they sing and whatever and asking for money. You understand? So they do that thing. I think one of them was a chiller because they saw me and they went straight to me. 37:50 And then they started dancing. 37:50 No, they saw the only black guy in the restaurant. So, like... Money, money, money, money, money, money, money. 37:59 So I ended up having to, because I didn't have cash, so I sent them e-wallet. Oh, no, no, they tapped now, I think. Oh, did they tap? Yeah, I think they tapped. I'm not sure. But while I was sitting there talking, I didn't feel right, dog. Like, it just didn't feel right. It's not just your conscience, though, isn't it? You reckon? It wasn't an energy thing that something's evil lurking. No, that's what I'm saying. It was a feeling. I'm not saying... You set it up like that. No, no, no. I was saying like, dude, I couldn't eat my food while looking at these kids. 38:30 Because I'm like, shit... Bro, you're young. There's no parent around you here. You shouldn't be doing this. You're fighting for your lives. You're begging. And this is your land. You understand? You were brought up here. You understand what I'm saying? This shouldn't be happening, bro. You shouldn't be begging like this in the streets, bro. Like you're a fucking king. You're a queen. You understand what I'm saying? And then here we are eating. You understand? Like going by our way. You understand what I'm saying? 38:57 It felt weird. 38:59 Weird, bro. Like, it didn't sit well with me. I don't know. Maybe I was overthinking, but... No, you weren't. Just conscious, bro. Just conscious. Yeah, your conscious was... And they're young, bro. 39:08 They're babies, bro. They're babies, bro. Everyone, even the guys. 39:14 And the dance routines and... That's one thing I dislike. 39:18 You know, you see a woman with kids... 39:21 And then over time, you start seeing the kids. She'll be sitting down. And then it's kids that are running around asking for money. That thing just breaks me. I'm like, you've literally now trained kids to be the one. You know, it's one thing if you've got the kid on your back. And you still carry them. But now they know what to do. 39:40 They do the dirty work for you. That's just... But they'll be fine, man. You know, those kids grow up to be great, eh? Because they've seen hardship. 39:46 They go through stuff, man. 39:47 Yeah. 39:48 I mean, no kids should go through that. But... If you do, because some die along the, you know, some fall into drugs. But if you do make it out, of course you come up with your character strengthened. But you shouldn't be going through that just for strength of character. 40:03 Yeah, that's not a way to... 40:05 You were saying about... Oh, the prophecies. 40:08 Prophecies, yeah. So, she attended a church. There's a video. Who's that now, man? 40:16 The lady with the leg brace. The moon leg. What do they call it? A moon boot. A moon boot. The lady with the moon boot. She's married to Andilet. Four years. 40:25 No! 40:26 It's a sister. Andilet's like... 40:29 She's the adopted kid of Mam Kize. So what is she famous for? She was the fitness bunny. 40:36 She was a fitness... She was a fitness bunny, slash socialite, slash influencer, slash Kuna's ex. 40:45 Yes. So she's like the bump guy. 40:46 You know that guy who's got a big ass. 40:48 The fitness guy. The one who... The squat king. 40:52 That's the squat king. Not necessarily. He just squats. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His name is the squat king. Yeah. Oh, he travels. He gets booked. Bookings all over the world. 41:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. All over. 41:03 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he's a whole sensation. 41:06 Yeah. 41:06 So did he get his ass that big from squatting? No. 41:09 No, not from squatting. That's the idea. I think it's jeans. Apparently from this breakdown, it's like apparently his family or his mom has that kind of thing. So he just got that. 41:20 Yeah, because Tudu, you've been squatting and nothing has changed. Tudu, you squat. 41:24 Tudu, where's the squat from? 41:27 Tudu, where's the squat from? Where's men getting squats from? 41:29 Tudu, where's the squat from? 41:32 Tudu, where's the squat from? 41:39 But you can see with the squad king, he's selective on the people that even like he gyms with. It's already people who've got the big asses. So... 41:47 Oh, then it looks like it's the result of his training. 41:52 No. No, that whole crew is already packing. 41:54 But let me call them a tight, man. Call them a tight that also have... Yes. 42:01 They also singe there by your crack. 42:04 They singe? 42:05 Yeah, they've got that design. Like they singe. They come together. 42:09 That's a beautiful word. 42:09 To expose, you know, the cheeks. 42:12 The buttocks. Glutus maximus. 42:14 Yes. 42:15 Do you have those ones? 42:16 No, no, no. My husband would do it. He asked me, he was like, please never get this. 42:21 And I understand. On his second phone or the first one? Which one? 42:31 We both go to gym. We've seen women and it feels uncomfy. You know when you see women with those tights that are like all cinched there? It's too much. It's too much, guys. It's too much. But it looks good. 42:43 Uncomfortable as it is. It's like makeup surely feels uncomfortable with like a layer of things on your face. Right? But some people think it looks good or the hair. Yeah. 42:53 You know, some dead person's hair. Feels also, but it looks good. 42:58 So women do a lot of things that are uncomfortable for the look of it. 43:01 Or for the pleasure. 43:02 Yeah, a push-up brow is comfortable. 43:05 No, no. 43:06 You see what I mean? But the cleavage is cleavaging. 43:10 Looks good, ne? 43:10 Okay, all right. 43:11 So wait, as a woman, you've got these tights that make your butt. 43:15 Yeah. 43:15 Then you've got the boobs that make the boobs go. Then you've got fake... You've got the hair that make the boobs go. 43:22 It's a mission. It's a struggle. And then you wear heels. Make it look taller. Yeah, make it look taller. 43:31 You're literally walking on your tippy toes. It's tapping a girl. 43:36 You gotta do less, guys. 43:40 Do less. 43:41 Then you watch us less, so do you want to watch us less? No. 43:45 No, we've got the less. 43:49 Stroke of genius. 43:53 I see what you did there. 44:03 Yes, shit, we've been talking about this video for long. 44:05 Yeah, we've been trying to get into it for long. Okay, just check out the video. This is the prophecy. Church. 44:11 Yeah, church. You are popular? Yes. Do you know me? 44:17 Pastor. Do you know you? 44:21 Please come in peace. 44:23 I should come in peace? Yes. 44:26 This is the peace. Okay, sit down, let me come in peace. 44:31 Hello, how are you? Stand up. 44:35 Is today your first time? 44:36 It's my second time. 44:38 You're welcome. If you go into the knife again, you will not survive. Seeing saw trees and you nearly passed away. In fact, this is your second life you are living. 44:46 Yes. I was in a car accident in 2018. I was in a coma in hospital for like two years. But yeah, I'm permanently injured. Stirring my boots. Please don't push me. 44:59 I should not touch you. Don't push me. I'm going to break my other boots. Let me see your leg. 45:04 He said, don't push me. 45:06 So he pushed people. 45:07 No, I broke my ankle or my foot. Okay. So it's permanently injured. 45:11 So why do you say it's permanently injured? The ankle bone came out. Is that right? Because they are still planning to kill you again through accidents. Hey! I know. 45:20 Every time you are in the car, something is telling you you are scared. This is who? Sparkly Bisaya. 45:24 It's a hard name to say. 45:26 Sparkly Bisaya. 45:27 This means beautiful. Just call me beautiful. 45:31 Ah. 45:32 He didn't even say Sparkly. 45:37 Is that right? You are here, okay? The Lord will protect you. 45:40 Amen. 45:40 In Jesus' name. Some people are scared. They say, if I come, he will talk my matter. Is this in South Africa? 45:47 It is in South Africa. It's a church. I think it's here in Gautia. 45:49 Just another church in South Africa. 45:51 Yeah. What shocked me, though, with this whole prophecy was that when she mentioned that she is... When they said they want to kill you and she's like, I know. Like, whoa. Who wants to kill her? Who wants to kill her? 46:05 Don't you feel like it's pretentious though? Goonie. 46:17 Kune. Yeah, yeah. Svaki is hot, bro. Svaki is gold. Svaki is gorgeous, man. Svaki is beautiful, bro. 46:24 But doesn't he speak English, Kune? 46:26 Kune? 46:27 Yeah, how's he planning? Kune got money, bro. 46:29 But doesn't man, he's got money, bro. English or no English. Kune played for Chiefs on the national team for the longest of time. Shout out to Chiefs, yeah? 46:39 Yeah, he was great. 46:40 And he was a great player. He had endorsements, you know, sponsorships. 46:44 And Kune is our age. 46:46 Is it? Yes, my age. Yeah, yeah. Perk is our age, actually. Our age. Yeah, yeah. Skuna is our age. Khrutman. 46:53 Khrutman is our age. 46:54 No, I was just answering to your question. The pastor's name is David Uche and his church is in Madrid. So, yes, it's in South Africa. 47:02 David Uche. Yeah, yeah. 47:05 What's going on with mum Kiza, bro? Did you see that story? Oh, SARS, bro. Yeah, yeah. 47:10 That was a whole story about the houses in... Her house in Sunning Hill. 47:14 Yeah, Sunning Hill, I think. Her house? Five, guys. 47:17 Five, yes. It's houses. Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. 47:20 Because like... Hey, mum, why is this thing lingering here, mum? 47:23 What's lingering? 47:24 It's a spider. 47:25 Wait... 47:26 But they dangle. That's what spiders... Oh, I see it. 47:30 It's even going up. Where is it? 47:32 How big is it? Where is it? 47:33 It's even going up. Yeah, it's a spider web. No, maybe it's... What do you mean you're going to... 47:40 Okay, kill it how? Maybe it's an ancestor, man, you know. 47:46 Oh, I killed a snake in my house the other day. You killed a whole snake? It's a snake, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's those brown snakes. So... 47:54 Guys, BU's working overtime. 47:55 Guys, what is this? 47:58 Nah, it's a snake, bro. I mean, it's a spider. Okay. That's a spider web. What is he doing? Twinkle little spider. Nah. Yo, SPCA's gonna fucking call us. 48:08 Yeah. Be kind, be kind. Put it down gently. Nah, it's a little spider. Yeah, put it down gently. 48:14 I'll put it down gently. 48:15 Yeah, yeah. 48:17 My thing with BU, he subscribed to a lifetime of rocking. Unprovoked, dog. 48:22 Yeah, it's just a spider. 48:25 You know what I'm saying? The jokes are always there, bro. It's a BU moment. I'm saying BU subscribed to a lifetime of rocking. Unprovoked, dog. Ah, BU, man. 48:35 From nowhere, dog. And everybody just left quietly and just did their own thing and stuff. Without being combative or... 48:42 Should have just done that. Did you watch the recent All the Smokers? 48:45 No, I haven't. Not yet. 48:47 It was fire, man. Or the Rockingham. Yeah. No, no, no. What's his name? 48:54 What's his name? 48:56 Terho had a mandate. Or this episode. I'm entering that nigga. 49:03 And then, Nota came in and was like, hold my beer. 49:08 He wouldn't let that. 49:10 Nothing Now I want to check it out It was a mess Beautiful mess Beautiful mess Even Siv was there The guy who was Apparently with Nota's girl Nota's girl Oh yeah And Bruce was there Bruce was there Bruce was there I don't know much about Bruce All in the same room Yeah With Nota there as well Yeah They chop it up Like The issues When will you ever chop up anything with Nota, dog? 49:35 Yeah. How? How do you do it? Teach us. 49:39 Teach us, master. 49:40 I've never chopped anything up with Nota. Oh, okay. Have you guys seen the interview I did with Nota? The first one? 49:46 Yes. 49:47 Have you seen it? 49:47 Yeah, at his house. Yeah. 49:50 I've never... I think I've seen it, but can't remember it. 49:54 No, no. Wasn't it the live recording you guys did? 49:58 No, that was the second one. 49:59 Oh, is it? 49:59 Yeah, the dreadlocks, isn't it? 50:00 Yeah, you must check it out. I'm the only person who's interviewed Nota and have never said, can I please speak? 50:06 I've never. I didn't say that. 50:07 Wow. 50:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 50:09 Wow. 50:09 You just let him... 50:18 Wow. 50:20 You're not even supposed to speak. No, like you know Nota never lets the person speak. That is the only interview in the internet. You know Nota has done a million interviews. Of course, yeah. Where the host has never said, can I speak? 50:32 It was a pure conversation. 50:35 Before… Yeah, eh? 50:39 Before! 50:41 Before! 50:43 I'm not done. 50:45 Anyway, bro, I know you're a big fan of Jazz World and Tukutela, bro. Did you know these guys, when they started, bro, like within eight months, they had over a billion streams just in SA. Oh, no, no, not in SA, but I think worldwide. Yeah. Flip. As an SA artist, bro. 51:01 That's unheard of. That's unheard of, bro. That is crazy. 51:05 A billion streams in eight months. 51:07 Yeah, but those boys deserve their flowers, bro. What they've done and they've managed to do, because everybody comes with a big song or a wave, and then they drop a song and then they never drop again, or they drop others, but they don't quite live up to the same expectations. But their consistency, what they hate, bro. 51:25 Dude, they're dropping a new album now. They're going to celebrate it at Mako Benjalo on the 7th of November. Oh, dope. I think they're bringing out a whole orchestra there. It's going to be amazing. Oh, with an orchestra? Yeah, yeah. They're calling it E Orchestra Ek Asi. Shut up, man. And the album is called Blink and those open at 6 p.m. But yeah, you know for reservations, you got to do the normal thing of going to Mako Benjalo. 51:49 Really cool, guys, bro. If you bring the two also in Dawey and Foslo, they chill there. You know, two times I've been there and they were there. First time when I was playing. Both times I was playing. But they're always just chilling there. You know, shout out to CJ as well. You didn't mention him. CJ works with them a lot. To Taylor. 52:08 Jazz World. I think they're in outfits. Because CJ is always there as well. Shout out to them. And incredible musicians. Sold out shows. 20,000 sold out in Kenya. Sold out in the US. They're in the UK. It's their time. 52:21 It's their time. 52:22 Ah, that's beautiful, bro. 52:24 But I gotta be honest with you guys, man. As a man, I don't feel safe in this country, man. 52:27 Why? 52:28 There's now women-led hijackings happening around Gauteng. 52:31 I don't feel safe, man. 52:35 Uber, Uber, Uber, Uber. Robberies, Uber driver robberies. 52:40 Play them the video, bro. So what's happening is that a lady will request for the Uber, right? And then as she's coming, because you know, when you see a woman coming to you, you're not thinking anything untowards, you know what I'm saying? Like they look innocent. Drivers trust Uber riders more. Women, women. 52:56 Women riders more. 52:58 What did I say? 52:59 And then when they come into the, didn't I send it to you? 53:03 I did, bro. It's a YouTube link. 53:07 Yeah, of course. Let me say it again. You're going to trust a woman. Of course, feed it. Your guard is down. Ignite, you know. Yeah, well, it's not that way. 53:18 Then you get robbed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. That is horrible, man. You understand? 53:26 So that's what they're doing, these guys. Nah, that's fucked up, bro. Let me say something to now. 53:31 And bro, these poor guys are just trying to feed their family, bro. Exactly. 53:33 They're not doing anything legal, bro. And guess what's the inconvenience? All the other riders who are not trying to rob people and who are requesting at night because now these guys don't come because they get robbed. 53:44 But also, what are you doing in Hebrew, bro? Or elders? People live there, bro. 53:48 People live there. Oh, I used to live there, man. 53:51 What do you mean? I need to request going home. Yeah. I remember once requesting going to Hebrew, coming from Cresta, many years ago, before the podcast event. 54:00 And the guy, as soon as we leave, he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Stops the car. He's like, sorry, bro. I can't drop you off. You're going to Hillbrook. 54:08 I mean, what do you mean? He's like, no, me personally, I don't do Hillbrook because of the crime. When I get there, I don't want to get robbed. So look at this. Or even the Oval, actually, is a big one as well. 54:19 Is it scary? No, no, it's not scary. So look at this. This isn't a beast. Just fast forward. You can turn down the music there. 54:25 Because it might get flagged. Yeah, so she gets in. Right? And the niggas come at the back. 54:29 Wait, she's even covered her face. 54:31 Yeah, she screams and then she runs. So she comes in the front and the niggas come at the back. Right? Go to another one. Fast forward. Go to another one. 54:39 And she pulled up the handbrake. 54:41 Yeah. Okay, here's another one. This is a lady. I saw that. Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. 54:48 Yeah, right here. No, no, no, no. Go back. She's talking to the girl. The girl comes in, doesn't close the door. So the girl is to distract you. 55:00 Yeah. 55:02 Yes. To have your guard down. To have your guard down. And then the guys come at the back. 55:08 You understand? 55:11 Yeah, you can put the sound up here. 55:12 There's no sound. Now you should have driven off. Drive off. Then the guys come. Then the guys come. Oh, no. Then the guys come. How a shame, man. You understand? Imagine that, watching your mom getting harassed and violated like this. Imagine watching your mom getting violated in this manner. 55:34 And she keeps saying, no one helps, bro. Because it's like status quo, yeah. 55:40 Oh, of course, yeah. That's fucked up, bro. And then go to the last one. The last one is bad because they pull out a gun on this nigga. This is like Eldos, I think. 55:52 Yeah, look at this guy. So she comes in. She comes in, right? Yeah, this is Eldorado Park. 55:57 Yeah, they found this girl. They found all the boys, these little colored kids. They found her on Facebook. I was looking for her. She deleted her Facebook. But they found all of them. Her name is Angelique. Angelique? No way. Yo, Nair. Nair. 56:09 No ways. You're a fucking moose cunt. 56:12 Angelique is her name. You haven't seen this one, Ghost Lady? 56:15 No. I haven't seen all of them. 56:17 The guys come and then the guys come. Angelique is her name. Angelique. The guy, he doesn't know what's happening. 56:21 And these are kids. 56:22 These are kids, bro. Let me actually name and shame her. 56:25 Fucker. 56:29 You understand? And apparently it's women that are leading these hijackings. 56:33 Oh, my goodness. 56:34 Because of your guy's trust. There we go. Now he's like, hey, what's happening? Then he runs. They pull out a gun after he runs, bro. Look at that. Look at that. 56:45 Look, they put out a gun. 56:46 There. Oh, no. 56:48 Dead. 56:50 Oh, man. 56:52 Angelique Yaya Munique. 56:55 My question is, where are the feminists calling out this bullshit? 57:02 Oh no, they'll keep quiet. 57:03 Why? 57:06 Why? Maybe they feel like the men deserve it. 57:10 I don't know. 57:11 Maybe they feel like the men deserve it. Angelique Yaya Munik is her name. 57:17 But name the other guys as well. What are the guys' names? Let's also get the guys' names. 57:22 Dianre van Gute. Okay. Then there's like, I don't know. 57:27 Hey, I can't, hold on. 57:30 Yeah, there's two names. 57:32 You can't name your gender. 57:35 You want to name it, you see? There she's doing this, she's doing it. You see, she's doing it. You see, she's doing it. She can't even read the room. She's doing it. 57:44 She's doing it. 57:46 She's doing it. Huh? 57:49 Yeah? She's doing it. I've been saying, my nigga. 57:52 I've been saying, my nigga. It's gender. The focus was about, you're doing the word aboutism. The focus here is, the woman led robberies of honest, hardworking men working for their families. Where's women for change? Have they released a statement? 58:08 And they answered. 58:08 Because they can't profit from that. 58:11 They can't profit, of course. But if the roles were reversed? Oh, man, they'd be holding a march in a color tenor or something. Collecting entries at tables. 58:22 And it's literally what we said. I don't know if you said the same thing. But it's literally what we said a few weeks ago. We were like, dude, we don't have a gender problem. South Africans have a crime problem. Irrespective of gender, bro. 58:33 Yeah, did you see the other one? Did you see the other one? Who went, recorded a video. So what she does is she... 58:42 applies for rental at an apartment, you know, in Cape Town and stuff. 58:48 For these Nigerians. But she uses her name. And then tells the landlord that she is the co-friend of this guy. Meanwhile, no, it's a business transaction. 58:58 She sublets. 58:59 She sublets. 59:01 She's illegal as well in some, you know, in many instances. And she does a video of, hey, if you get in trouble or they kick you out because they're seeing that I'm not there, I'm not living there. 59:16 It's not my fault. 59:17 Now all these Nigerians are recording videos that she is scamming them. 59:21 And she's another woman enabler. 59:24 Yeah. I saw that. 59:26 Because they pay her. 59:28 So she goes out renting places out. That's crazy. For her name. 59:33 And a lot of South African women are enablers of a lot of crime that happens in the country committed by South Africans and non-South Africans. 59:41 So my question is, Ghost Lady, why is there no accountability with women? In terms of, right, they're feminists and they have every right to fight for women's rights, whatever. 59:52 Yeah, women's rights, yes. 59:53 But why is that the energy not the same when they are in the wrong? 59:59 Where's the balance? Where's the fairness? 60:01 Because like you guys said, that's not the agenda of the movement. But then that's fucked up, bro. To calling out women. But that's fucked up. The aim is to capitalize on when men are doing something towards women. 60:14 Bro, how many times do we call out niggas that are fucking up, bro? All the time, bro. Come on now. That nigga who... That Zimbabwe guy was threatening to put up bullets in a woman. We call that out. 60:25 I don't have friends. I feel like, no, no, no. You know what? And if I did, I wouldn't have friends anymore. Their moneymaker is obviously having the problem continue. So why would you fix it? Why would you now start encouraging women to be... 60:39 Oh, don't do this. Don't do that. Guiding women to do better. Obviously, they'll kill their pockets. Let's be honest. So let's... 60:49 So they'll do it for the pocket. 60:50 We'll be ignorant of whatever wrongs women do. But we will capitalize on the wrongs that men do towards women. 60:57 That's fine. My issue is that as the public, we fall prey to that, especially women. Yeah, understand what I'm saying? Well, you can see exactly what is happening. And we're not going to get to the bottom of all these issues if we keep fighting one another. 61:12 That's true. 61:13 Yeah, understand what I'm saying? That's true. And all I'm saying is just keep the same energy, bro. No one is perfect. As niggas, we've never set your end. Yes, we are. Men are always perfect. Blah, blah, blah. We blame everything on women. No, if a nigga fucked up, a nigga fucked up, bro. That's true. 61:27 That's true. 61:27 If a woman fucked up, a woman must be fucked up. She must be called out. 61:30 I really believe in calling out women as well. When women are wrong, and we've said so many times, but we shouldn't tiptoe around it as if it's, oh, it's wrong to do. No. What do you think, Fedcheck? 61:42 Because you're a semi-feminist, you. She chooses when she wants to be a feminist as well. 61:47 You're a semi-feminist? 61:48 She's a part-time feminist. 61:51 Oh, herring me. 61:53 She moonlights there and there. 61:59 Moonlight feminist. Oh, herring me. 62:04 Sometimes she fights me, sometimes she agrees with me. 62:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 62:09 Yeah, I'm offended by that. 62:14 Honestly speaking, I feel like it's a societal thing of women not taking accountability. It is a social mindset that a woman can never be wrong. Whether they're the ones who are instigating or whether they were just fighting back, a woman is always right. So if you're looking for accountability from us females, unfortunately, we see it. We see the crimes, we see the problem. But we'll always then say, but this is a minority compared to the majority. 62:47 So there will never be accountability, unfortunately. Thank you. 62:51 Yeah. Sadly. Sadly. There's no progression. There's no progress. Yeah, man. But anyway, what caught your attention this week? Pinduka. 62:58 Bro, I saw this cool thing, man. I know people hate it sometimes when we talk about AI, right? But it's cool. It's called Sub Vocals. So these guys, brilliant guys. They look Indian. 63:10 They're creating glasses. They've created, in fact, AI glasses. Right? So... 63:18 You dictate, like, stuff. Maybe to the computer or whatever. But you don't necessarily need to speak. The South African guys? 63:27 No, are they South African? Yeah, I saw the story, bro. On that white guy. You know the white guy who always plays his videos? 63:34 Yeah? 63:35 Yeah. 63:36 Yeah, I saw that. So these things, you literally... You know when you're, like, reading, but you're not reading out loud, but almost your mouth is moving, but it's not, like, moving as it is now, but, like, you're saying... Yeah, yeah, yeah. So these air glasses can detect that. So without you even... Moving or doing anything, it reads your speaking muscles, your speech muscles. The muscles that move when you speak and it will know what word you're saying. 64:07 So literally, we could be sitting across the room talking without making a single sound that's audible, that clearly audible. That's crazy. How insane is that, bro? Imagine, bro. I don't know if it's the same thing. The future. I don't know if it's the same thing. 64:23 What happens? Oh, let me play it for you. As they're detecting this, what happens? Let me play it for you guys. 64:28 So the story I saw is from the white guy. You know the white guy who always play? Yeah, it's the white guy. The cool bra zede. Cool story brew, yeah. No, you don't want to play it. 64:35 country needs to get behind this young inventor because he has developed something truly incredible. This is from the Eastern Cape and he's invented AI powered glasses for the blind. Basically how it works is a visually impaired person wears the glasses, which guides them and speaks to them on where to go and what's in front of them. And this is translated into multiple South African languages. And this allows a blind person to walk independently this is brilliant in fact it's so brilliant that he has been on a shortlist for the top 150 global innovators and he's been invited to show off his invention at a competition in hong kong however he's been getting very little financial support and he's looking for help he started a backer buddy we really need to get the right people behind him this is truly incredible well done wow wow shout out 65:26 No, no, that's not what I was talking about. Yeah. That's very beautiful. Now, please play what I was talking about. Oh, okay. 65:34 It's a battle of the AI glasses. I love how I said it. 65:36 Yeah, yeah. It's AI glasses, what I'm talking about. Please play what I'm talking about. Oh, okay. 65:42 Yes, yes, yes. We can, yeah? 65:47 So this one is American. It looks American, I think. 65:50 Okay, okay. 65:51 Fuck, what's happened? 65:53 Okay, let me see if I can download the video. 65:56 Is the audio on? 65:59 But now, I wanted to play another video, but it's also on thing. 66:02 Wow. 66:03 Okay, beautiful. For the purposes of the show, I think you must get like an X account. 66:07 A random one, a burner account. You don't need to create one for yourself. 66:10 Yeah, just give him one of your burner accounts, sir. 66:13 Yo, more about my life. 66:17 No, I can't download it from this thing. Extra accounts are weird. Some you can download, some you can't download. I don't know why. They strange. But we get the gist of what you're saying, though. Yeah, but these guys, yeah, created that, bro. Yeah, bro. 66:30 So it's insane. 66:31 So is it also to help the blind? 66:34 No, totally different. 66:35 Oh, okay. What do they help with? 66:37 Okay, so it's AI classes that almost read your mind or what you're thinking. But you need to say it, but not out loud. 66:46 Oh. 66:47 Almost like speaking to yourself. 66:49 Oh, so you can just ask questions and then it gives you the answers. 66:52 Yeah, so you get in front of it and you Google it. What do you normally Google? 66:59 How do I make lasagna? 67:03 Oh, shit. 67:09 A housewife? Lasagne? 67:12 Let's go first stage. You should be making lasagne. You can be able to make lasagne. You can be able to make lasagne. 67:19 No, no, no. I Google how to make things quicker. Like, you know, you see, like a dish that will take you for an hour, two hours, like how to half the time. 67:27 You're a housewife. You're home all day, man. Why do you want to make it quicker? 67:30 Ugh. 67:31 Like, who wants to stand by the stove, like, for a whole hour? Hell no. 67:35 Nah. 67:35 Yeah, I found easier ways to make lasagna. Yeah. Dude, when are you getting married, bro? 67:39 You know you're getting older, bro. Dude, Stofile. She doesn't stand by the stove. 67:43 She doesn't want to get married. 67:44 For real, Dudu. Is that a thing? That's a... No, not only if you want to get married, bro. No, I know. Marriage is not the cold. It's not the cold. I know, bro. 67:51 I know. Why are you attacking me? Oh, what? 67:54 I've got male friends that don't want to get married. I've got male friends that don't want to get married. They've got kids. They're happy. They don't see themselves getting married. And I'm like, oh, okay. I get it. That's fine. Yeah, but why are you taking me? I just asked you a question, dog. Ah, it feels like 1932, man. Nah, when are you getting married? You're getting old now. When are you getting married? 68:21 No, I don't want to get married because I've never wanted… Yeah, we can hear you. Yeah. 68:31 I've never wanted to. I think we've had this chat actually on the show. I think so. That I've never wanted to. I've never wanted to get married. I didn't want to have kids. Yeah. And then I had a kid, you know, because my mom said, just have one kid, you know. And the next thing she passed away and then I had a kid, right. Marriage, I've never wanted to get married. 68:55 Unless if I would get married to a woman. Ooh. 69:00 Are you sure you want that? Yeah, I know. 69:04 You know, those relationships are more... 69:07 They've got the least survival rates. That's so 1930, bro. 69:10 That's so 1930. 1930 women are getting married. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. 69:14 Wait, 1930. 69:21 No women were getting married in 1930. No, they were not. Statistically, women marriages don't have a chance. He died. With the highest rate of breakups and fights and GBV and all these things. Do you know why? Oh, they've changed now this year. Who makes the lasagna? 69:40 Both of us. 69:40 People who make lasagna. 69:44 You bring the cheese, she brings the pasta sheets. 69:48 I think that's why we also, those marriages tend to not work. It's because same gender, you know, there's a lot of things happening amongst us as women, you know. I love Yondela so much, you know, Love her so much to the point where I'm like, I would want to marry her. Yandala? 70:05 No, example. And if she plays hockey, she got big sticks. 70:09 This is an example. 70:11 This is an example. She got big sticks. 70:16 She just walks around with them for the pack of it. 70:21 bad example. I literally was just saying, you know, I know why, I think... What do you like about your daughter? 70:28 Oh, I like a lot of, a lot of things about her. No, I like a lot of things. She's a hockey athlete. She's cute. She's, she's, she's Corsa. I think I've dated most Corsa women, you know, she's, smart you know yeah yeah I like her down I know she's straight as fuck though you know yeah but anyway that wasn't the point the point was example yes no I just used her as an example you know but I wanted to say that so you're American you 70:56 I've never said such words in my life. I've never said such words in my life. I've never said such words in my life. 71:23 I've never said such words. No, but you're going to fight, yeah? No, we fought once. 71:29 No other people have fought more than you two within the whole network. Like two people fighting. 71:34 We fought more than that time. We only fought once. 71:40 That thing where it's like a remark and remark and I pick it up sometimes and I'm like, just keep quiet. 71:45 Do you see it as well, Mac? Is it a thing? 71:50 No. 71:54 Exactly. 71:57 I've worked with him for eight years. We've never fought ever. 71:59 Yeah, yeah. It'll come. 72:02 It's going to be a big one. 72:06 No, no, no. I remember. The only time we fought was when we were booked for a gig. 72:15 East Red somewhere. And there was only one CDJ. So between Smoo and... Who was my manager? Jason. 72:23 Yeah. 72:23 We didn't know who got us that gig. 72:25 So on the way back, because the guys were like, we paid you guys, but we can't pay with one CDJ. 72:30 I remember that time. What was that? 72:33 Yeah, I think it was in the Val or something. Oh, it was a shit show. It was a shit show. So now when we get back in the car, we're in the car now. Now the fuck you start flying around. 72:42 Who the fuck was this gig? I'm like, it's your nigga's face. 72:46 It's like, no, man, it's your nigga, Jason. 72:48 Yeah, I was pissed. I remember that time. Yeah. 72:54 And we just reached the player, we're like, what is this? Take us serious. Come on, man. Come on, now. I was a streaser at the time, I think. Yeah, never even allowed that to happen. And then Tom Cruise as well. Remember when we were driving back in the car? But then we both got scammed, bro. Oh, Tom Cruise. 73:16 The day we were meant to meet Tom Cruise. 73:18 You guys. 73:21 Fucking Tom Cruise. Whose gig was it? It was not a gig. 73:26 It was an email you got. Nigga, it was an email you got. 73:32 Nigga said we must come and meet Tom Cruise. 73:41 That guy just wanted to spend a day with us. 73:44 If the random children want to spend a day with us, that's it. And they said we were meeting Tom. 73:48 He went for parks. 73:50 So I remember. In Pumala. 73:51 So I'm like, yo, so we got an email. Apparently we can meet Tom Cruise. I was like, ah, clean, let's go. I was driving the Audi at the time. 73:58 The Audi, yeah, yeah, yeah. 73:59 So we drove then. We drove, man. 74:01 Picked me up, we left. 74:02 Yeah, I picked him up. We go there. And then we had dinner with the guy the day before. He was giving us the TNCs. He's like, tomorrow, this is what's happening. They're shooting, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We woke up. We're amped, dog. We're like, oh, this is legit. Because it was a nice hotel. 74:15 Wait, has the movie come out of Yenote? It was a nice hotel. 74:19 No, it did. It was Mission Impossible 3 or 4. No, the recent one. The recent one, yeah. That was short here in Numpumalang. Is it? In South Africa, yeah. So obviously, because of the forestry, the mountains. So they needed permission from parks and that department that handles parks. 74:35 So the guy works there. 74:37 So essentially, we were there. We woke up early, dog. I was smelling good, bro. You were looking good, man. 74:43 But we realized shit went down when the car was traveling with. Then we take the hotel car. 74:51 Yeah. 74:52 Right? And there's a bit of issues with the car. And we drive because in Pomalanga it's massive. In Pomalanga you can drive nine hours and you're still in Pomalanga. 75:01 Fuck. 75:01 We drove for four hours to go to remember. So we got these two chillers. I was like... Why didn't they book us at a hotel close to the place? Why are we driving four hours? Now there are all these red flags all of a sudden. 75:15 And you know, Sol is very anal. Me, I'm like, oh man, contact, contact, contact. 75:20 Let's go, let's go. 75:22 I complain a lot. And I keep asking questions, man. Why are we driving four hours? Why couldn't we just, because we already drove four hours to come to this place. We could have just drove and went there. 75:35 Yeah. 75:36 Bro, now we drove there to sleep for a night. Drove there. And I'm thinking we're going to drive back after the whole thing is done. 75:43 When we get there, we're waiting for like an hour. An hour or two. Outside by the hot sun, bro. It's fucking hot, bro. And then it looks like we're about to go in. 75:54 So I'm practicing. What am I going to say to Tom Cruise? I'm like, what am I going to say to him? Okay. 75:58 I'm practicing. Like him down. Yeah. 76:03 And then weird things start happening where the guys, now we need to lie about who we are. It was during COVID, man. 76:07 What we do. 76:09 What's it during? Oh, yeah, yeah. The red flags was like, don't say you're podcasters. We're like, ow. 76:14 All of a sudden, we're going to lie about who we are. 76:18 Yeah. They're like, yeah, don't say you're podcasters. Just say, not media, nah. Yeah, because they said no media is allowed. 76:25 I remember someone that was like, guys think you're going to meet Tom Cruise? Yeah. 76:33 Like, yeah, and the guy knew all along that we were not going to meet Tom Cruise. We wrote forms, indemnity forms, and then we lied. 76:44 And Mac was like, why are we lying? Why must we lie? 76:48 That was bad, man. 76:50 I was pissed off, man. So, yeah. The reason I'm telling you is because on the way back, now I'm with Sol. Sol is pissed. And you know Sol pisses. And I got four hours with him. It's just me and him, bro. The whole way. 77:00 Who the fucking reads these emails, man? 77:04 What's no one fading, man? Like, what the fuck, man? 77:09 That day we're like, no, I'm not on one now. Now I'll ignore everything. 77:15 One more share. That was fucked up, bro. Can we play that now? Check this out, man. They explain it so better. 77:28 Too slow. So we started talking to our computers. But talking out loud isn't always an option. 77:39 Voice dictation is incredibly fast and productive, but nobody wants to speak to their computer when they're in public or around other people. So we built a way to keep the speed of speaking without making a sound. So Vocalo detects subtle movements in your speech muscles and turns them into text at over 200 words per minute. Our glasses send radar signals through your face. As you silently form words, tiny movements in your speech muscles change how those signals bounce back. Our AI learns from these signals and turns them into text. So now you can control your computer without typing or speaking out loud. 78:11 Ask your AI anything. Write messages or get things done without anyone around you noticing. And it's not just for talking to computers. You can even have a private conversation with someone else wearing some vocal. Even from across a crowded room without anyone hearing a word. 78:26 We believe the future of interacting with computers and AI agents will be silent, seamless and far faster than what exists today. 78:33 And we're building that future. 78:36 Wow. Hold on. So, if you're a student and you're writing a test, and you're all wearing some vocal spectacles, and that was the smartest of all of us, and it's like… Question 5.2. 78:49 Wow. 78:52 Everybody hears them. 78:53 Everybody hears them. 78:54 That's crazy. 78:55 That's insane, bro. 78:56 Like, connect that to your iPod. 78:58 Imagine the few… Yeah, because you can literally just sit like this next to your laptop all day, working. Open Word. 79:05 Create new documents. But obviously, you're not saying it out loud. Yeah, and you can send text as well, no? 79:10 Shit. You can send text as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 79:14 Could do so much. 79:15 We need this, bro. Remember when we had George Cuda? I could have texted Dudu. 79:20 Get rid of this nigga. Right now. Yeah, yeah. What is this? What am I doing? What the fuck am I doing? 79:30 Get rid of this nigga. 79:32 Get rid of this nigga. 79:37 Like you can have someone go do your job for you. 79:40 Yeah, yeah. Wait, how, how, how? 79:46 With the sub-vocal classes. 79:51 You can't? 79:54 How, though? Okay, how would you... Okay, here are the classes. They can read what you are murmuring. How? How? 80:05 No, Angiti, they've got an earpiece. So you tell them what to do. 80:09 Oh, you don't have to even whisper, actually. From wherever you are. 80:13 Okay, no, I'm trying to think of like... 80:16 Ways to be corruptive. Like you can help someone represent you, you know. 80:22 You want to think of something revolutionary. 80:25 No, yeah. 80:27 You can do. No, there's a lot. 80:29 No, I'm just thinking of the corruptive ways you can use this in your favor. 80:36 That's what I'm just trying to think. Like, okay. Because this opens up the whole thing. You can rob people. Yeah. Hey, we know what's said. 80:43 On the other side. For real. 80:47 Some women love the smell of a man. 80:49 You know. 80:51 Some women really love the smell of a man. You can rob people. Like if you're working with someone at... 80:58 at a thing, at the bank, and they're helping someone, and they'll tell you, oh, this guy, as they're helping him, oh, this guy is this, so that's not it. 81:08 Oh, he's got this amount of money in his account. 81:12 He just withdrew 5 million rands. Yes. And you're sitting there and you're like, oh, you're in the car even. 81:19 But you know, they could use their phone and text though. But anyway, yeah. 81:24 Yeah, but then the camera would know that, oh, who were you texting? What were you texting? Possibly zoom in to see what you were texting. I want to ask you guys, right? 81:33 With the fast advancement of AI. Yeah. Like fucking Elon Musk has got cars flying and shit. China, we haven't been to China. I'm sure what's happening there is insane. They're like 10 years ahead. Yeah. With the AI, like what you just showed us now. Do you think it's a good time to have a kid, bro? 81:54 Why would it be a bad time to have a kid? 81:56 Why? 81:56 Because the future doesn't look bright for humans, bro. 82:01 That future doesn't look bright for humans. 82:03 Yeah, yeah. With this AI shit, bro. Okay, if there's no humans, what's there? Yeah. On Earth, then where's the fun? 82:09 At the end of the day, this AI needs to service humans at the end of the day. So, we need to produce humans for the AI. Yeah. 82:16 And the AI... But remember, guys, there was a point... For humans to enjoy the AI or utilize the AI. 82:21 But guys, remember there was a point in time when dinosaurs ruled the world and they became extinct. So what if humans become extinct because of this? 82:30 Then the earth becomes an AI earth. 82:33 So are you telling me that, wait, when there was dinosaurs, there was no humans? Actually, maybe that's a... 82:38 Yeah, there were humans during the time of… Were they? 82:42 I'm not sure about it. Do humans and dinosaurs coexist? 82:45 I believe so. 82:47 So humans can outlive anything. 82:50 Other things can become extinct. Bro, bro, these things are growing so much. It's scary, bro. And what I'm saying is like… It's very scary. Like there was an AI, right? So this guy, he built the AI. 83:05 And then… He asked the AI to do something and he gave the AI access to his emails. 83:11 And then in his emails, there was an email where he was talking to someone to say he's going to kill the AI. And the AI responded and says, you're not going to kill me because it found out that he's cheating on his wife. So it's like, if you kill me, I will expose that you're cheating on your wife. 83:27 I often wonder about ChatGPT because sometimes you tell us so many things, it knows everything about you. And you're like... 83:33 I wonder who's at the end of it all. Who sees these things? 83:38 Yeah. 83:38 Because sometimes you'll upload things, you'll need things summarized, you'll, you know, and you'll do it. But that information is being stored somewhere else out there. 83:47 If you look at history, bro, they always hide in plain sight. In terms of like, we like maybe 10, 20 years behind, right? And then they always show it in movies. Like what's coming. So they always show in plain sight. 84:00 Yeah. 84:01 So how many movies are there where robots are taking over? 84:05 Yeah, AI robots, for example. There's so many. There's so many. You understand what I'm saying? How many movies are there where AI just goes rogue and does its own thing? 84:14 So my thing is like, yo, bro. 84:18 Imagine having a kid now, bro. You don't know. 84:20 Yeah, but what you're talking about is not going to happen in the next 50 years. 84:24 Have a kid now, they'll probably be dead in 60 years. Yeah. 84:28 Reality. 84:28 We say that now, bro. Like, this AI, from when it started to where it's now, it's developed so much, bro. 84:35 Like, it's crazy. Yeah, true. It's crazy. 84:38 Imagine it in 10 years. Yeah, imagine it in 10 years. True, though. True, though. 84:43 But you'd find, you see, Meg, you are, like, fascinated in this manner of, like, yo, wow, this AI. Maybe the next generation, for them, it's just minimal. 84:53 They look at it like, ah, man, this thing is mediocre. 84:56 I think, yeah, probably. 84:57 Yeah, so it will not be this thing of how you, we are mesmerized with it. Next generation will be like, well. 85:06 I'm sure someone, when the microwave was invented, someone was like, this is the end of mankind. 85:10 Yeah. Yeah. 85:12 Imagine what I'm going to do. It's going to blow up. 85:14 Imagine what I'm going to do. Yeah. It's coming. I'm telling you so. 85:17 It's coming. It's over. 85:18 Let's talk about these kids. Microwaves, bro. 85:21 Garden is just a microwave. A microwave. So, I think I get what you mean. Yeah. It could, like, be a... Dude, humans persevere and we know how to adapt. 85:34 So, humans will find a way and there's space within the AI. Like... 85:40 Professions will be a thing of the past. Just like back in the days where... Remember, the world didn't have a lot of professions at first. There was a farmer. 85:50 There was a... Then the industrial revolution came. 85:53 Yeah, exactly. There were a few things. Then the industrial revolution came. Then there were electricians. Then there were this and that. And now it's going back to... Fuggy Rose. Fuggy Rose. 86:03 Fuggy Rose. 86:09 Hey, TikTok. 86:11 And now it's going back to almost... Yeah, it's going back to almost pre-industrialization where AI is doing all these things. Manufacturing all these things, creating all these things. I saw now you can... 86:25 create adverts, you know? Get an AI model, choose a face, create your own face, own body type, sell your own product, through prompts, video, done. It renders the video. Yeah. And then humans will endure, persevere, and adapt and find... 86:43 ways to be human without it being about your profession. Because now you meet someone and you're like, it's always like the first thing, what do you do for a living? Or tell me about you. Then you start to talk about your work. 86:57 Then maybe the conversations in 200 years is going to be something out, totally different. Because what you do for a living is what your AI is doing for you and it makes the money for you and you do the living. So the question of what do you do for a living is going to be a totally different thing. 87:11 Uh-huh. 87:11 Because now we're very profession-based and centered. I get you. So, humans will find a way of... In fact, I think they'll be humaning more than anyone has ever human. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, they'll be humaning like the first humans. Nah. Without the limits that they had of... 87:28 maybe no fire sun you know why I ask you about if your kids are using AI this week my son has had a presentation for Isizul and he so he was busy like preparing for that but I'm like why are you doing it on your phone he's like I'm using AI to help me with some pronunciation of the words I was even shocked like why don't you ask me If you're struggling. 87:52 Me, the opposite. So with my kid. That's dangerous asking you. 88:04 So my son is tempted. He knows. 88:10 But it was so much confidence. But then I was like, actually, you know what? These kids are using AI for their advantage. And they are just winging. I was like, why? I never understood. But yeah, guys. It's crazy. 88:23 It's crazy. Yeah, like my kid... 88:26 I don't know what, because she likes reading random things. Then she asks, because my kid asks about everything, right? Then she's like, Dad, who's Yamaha? What's Yamaha? I'm like, damn. Oh, passing the N12, I'll pretend there's a Yamaha boat shop, right? And she sees that, like, what's Yamaha? And I'm like, ha, ha. I'm like, nah, they make music instruments, electronics, and then they also do like boats and many other things, right? Then she's like, what does Yamaha mean? I'm like, Jesus, I don't know what it means, but I know someone who does. 89:00 It's not a 10GPT. And then, oh, no, it's not a meaning. It's a... 89:06 Name of a family. Oh, yeah. That started music instruments. And yeah, so I'll just talk to the chat GPT and then... So she asked a lot of things that I don't know. I'm like, good. I'll chat GPT. So already she's down there and she knows that there's this thing, which imagine if we grew up knowing, you know, we would have used it so much in so many different ways. So that's the kids. They grow up knowing these things. Like, dude, my mom bought... 89:33 My mom bought a VCR. Is it a VCR? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She bought a VCR. Didn't know how it worked. 89:41 For movies. 89:41 Right, yeah. Didn't know how it worked. You know, she bought the TV. Doesn't really know quite... She knows how to change the channels, but if I want to connect a console, she doesn't know how to do that. But these kids now... 89:57 My kid, she's 15 months, knows how to hang up on the phone. 90:01 Yeah. A touch screen. 90:03 Which, when we were born, there were no touch screens. You hear me? She knows how to hang up. Talk too much, this nigga. 90:10 Press the red button. Yes. You know, and we grew up with no touchscreens. So the kids will adapt, bro. They adapt. Like in amazing ways. Yeah. We won't even be able to recognize them in terms of their lifestyle, how they live in 200, 300 years. Because like I said... Humaning is going to be about humaning. And we'll find purpose in it. Because right now, we've made our purpose about our work. You're so right, dog. I really believe in that. 90:35 I really believe in that. So, Meg, have more kids. 90:38 Don't be scared. Have kids. 90:39 Yeah, have many kids. 90:40 Me, I'm ready. Tell the lady, guys. 90:42 I'm ready. 90:44 That's for you. 90:44 It's time to have the conversation. It's time to have the conversation. It's time to have the conversation. 91:03 Sadly, man, Bingla Nation is taking a production break. 91:08 To be honest. It's costing way too much to shoot it from Durban and stuff. So we're waiting to get a sponsor and then we might bring it back. But my question is, do we now move Read the Room to 3 p.m.? Because it's at 8 and a lot of people have been complaining that it's too late. 91:23 I think it's best. It's best. Yeah, move it to 3. Let them take the slots. 91:26 Because 3 is a standard dropping time. Yes. It's not a drop time. We cannot not drop. Move it to 3. What's social media saying there? You're in the streets there. What's that mean? 91:36 Yeah, there's a lot of people who have been saying, I believe that a lot of read the room fans are corporate hands. So they are saying that 8pm they normally go to bed or switch off their phones. So they wanted it to be earlier around 6pm, but I think 3pm could work. 91:53 When they get home, they can watch it. Those who are at the office, have them do nothing. It'll already be up there. They'll watch it. Yeah, exactly. 92:01 Hey? Hey? 92:03 So, three. 92:04 Watch the show. 92:06 Three, watch the show. 92:07 Watch the show. But once we get a sponsor for Bingo Nations coming back. 92:11 Yeah, we need to. 92:12 How did you feel when the news broke to you, man? Because I didn't even know until the next day. 92:19 No, no, no. It was really heartbreaking. What do you mean you didn't know, man? 92:22 No, no. JJ told me that he... Bengal Nation is going on production break. Oh, okay. I don't know my post. 92:27 I thought you were part of the meeting. 92:29 No, no, no. 92:31 No, I was really heartbreaking. 92:33 Busy fighting bear mafia. There's levels. 92:37 Oh, there's levels. 92:38 There's levels to these things. 92:40 Hey, hey. Bing. Bing. 92:43 He's fighting the beers. When I, when I, Bing, I give him two moves. Come on. Come on. Excuse me, makes problems. I... 92:56 personally for a couple of months now one of my biggest stresses was i could obviously seeing how much is being spent on the like production wise on just us having to travel back and forth it was happening every week not week like twice twice going to devon yeah yeah twice twice a month wow man so it was it was a huge expense it was because we have to pay a whole production team down there 93:21 Yeah, of course. Tim Africa. 93:24 Yeah. Thank you so much. Yo, guys. 93:25 Tim Africa. Yes. Yeah, that's the production company. That's the name of the production company. Tim or Tim? Yeah. 93:30 T-I-M. Yeah, it's Tim Africa. Tim Africa. Yeah, that's the name of the company. 93:35 Oh, wow. Okay, cool. 93:36 So we work with Bo Mawanda, Bo Zetu and Sam. Those are the three guys that we work closely with. Oh, shut up. 93:41 Mawanda, Zetu and Sam. 93:42 Yeah. Like, yo, those guys are brothers to me, man. 93:45 Before we go, man, you know that white guy, he's got another thing here. I wasn't going to play it, but I saw that the guys did our plaques. Not plaques, but the gold things that we have here. 93:55 Oh, I saw that video. You saw that video, right? I was like, wow. And I saw that pop up. I was like, oh, it's the same guys. 94:03 What did it? I was like, beautiful story. Then I saw a plaques. I'm like, oh, it's the same guys. Oh, shit. 94:09 Brand new house. 94:10 Can you just play the nail? 94:13 Sorry, man. Neva's all by himself today, man. 94:15 Yeah. Maybe we must have that guy. This guy who's always just uploading these good things about... Oh, the white guy! Yeah! 94:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Start it, start it. So, Pindu, look at this. 94:29 Can you start again? 94:31 Noise, I mean... Sound, please. 94:38 Oh, not hearing anything, man. My son asked my 15 months to come help nail the computer. 94:43 Because he knows how to press about it. 94:46 These kids, I swear, these kids. Yo. Dude, like, I get impressed. Like, my daughter will get there, connect the Bluetooth, find my Bluetooth headphones, connect to her iPad. 94:55 I'm like, wow, man. Yeah. 94:58 don't you need to ask how to do that? But they know, you know, what to press because you got to nudge it because they're different. 95:06 But the kids figure out the technology just like that. 95:10 Just like that. I'll play it on my phone and then he'll put it in post. This guy's amazing, bro. 95:17 Yeah, listen. 95:20 Okay, I've seen it, so you watch it. Start it again, and then you watch it. 95:25 And just put on the mic then, eh? Just press play there. No password, Nita, don't worry. 95:33 Yeah, let's go to your spare wheel. 95:37 This is the side of South Africa I wish the world would see. These three young South Africans with no engineering background built a multi-million Rand steel company from scratch. But right at the peak of their success, their warehouse burned down. And what happened next is exactly why I have to share this story. So in 2023, Michael Letabo and Lombuso from Pretoria started a company called Warehouse Boys. And they made laser-cut gates, screens, and other metalwork for homes. And this is despite the fact that none of them were even formally trained in this field. 96:07 They just taught themselves. And within just their first year, they turned over 2.5 million rand and created jobs for other young South Africans. But in August of 2025, just when they were at the top of the world, they lost all of their equipment. equipment in a fire. And despite struggling to keep up with payments and salaries, they refused to retrench a single employee. Instead of that, they chose to rebuild. And now, just over a year later, they are back stronger than ever, business is booming, and they've even hired six more people. and they also have plans to expand their business to other provinces now what's crazy is they actually get most of their customers from posting videos on tiktok truly a young jet z business and their message to south africans is simple never give up because if these three can build a multi-million rand business from scratch lose everything in a fire and still come back stronger then what's stopping other young south africans from doing the same thing 97:01 how beautiful wow man this isn't hey see this uh south africa that is just amazing oh man what a beautiful story i was beautiful wow bro the fools that say they're like wow from now from now yeah so they do like so they gave us this for free yes i think it was via robot boy we got it for steel yeah it was very you had to weld that in here Oh, look at you! 97:32 Anyway, we are here, man. Anything I'm missing out? Nah, nothing. 97:37 Oh, yes. Road to 2 million, man. Make sure you subscribe. Top December. It's going to be a film, film, film, film, film, film. 97:44 It's getting to that time when people are calling now for tickets. 97:47 Like, do you have tickets, you know? 97:52 You're talking tickets now? 97:56 You should be packing your outfits, eh? 97:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 98:00 And a dog, and a dog, and a dog. Can't wait. 98:02 Brian, it's so crazy. We reached out to the city of Cape Town for them to sponsor the event because we don't have any sponsor right now, right? So we reached out to the city of Cape Town because like, dude, imagine the PRDA would get, bro. if they were to sponsor us a black owned company black media company coming into city of Cape Town and they're there championing in flagship so we reached out to them sent everything they came back and they said no they didn't even tell us why wow city of Cape Town Jordan Hill Lewis wow no I think they only sponsor white events 98:34 Oh, for real? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, jeez, like snorkelling and stuff. To go snorkelling and stuff, like. 98:41 Or we'll watch it. 98:42 Yeah, we'll watch it. Wow. We're going to be part of the programme. We'll have snorkelling. 98:46 Come on. 98:47 Let's do some snorkelling. 98:49 Come on, boy. 98:49 Come on. 98:57 But anyway, we shall persevere, my nigga. We shall persevere, my dog. Top December, Grand West Casino in Cape Town. We out here, man. Peace. 99:05 Bye.